Spoken like a true man. And I bet you walked to school, uphill both ways. Seriously, I agree with you, I prefer the use the most "generic" features possible (like revolved cuts) because of the added versatility. Standard holes are for wimps!cncwhiz said:I myself do not use the hole feature. I think it sucks. I do revolved cuts and I can set all my values as I feel. It might take a little more time but can be edited much better. As far as the two time diameter threads that is mostly true. For high pressure hydraulic valves that we produce you can see the differance in when the thread fails. I run four times dia. We also use undersize forming taps. Does your hole feature handle form threads? I also do not like all those notes the the hole feature puts in the model. When I use the cosmetic thread feature I can set up all my information the way I want it to be in a print using parameters. There are other issues for pro manufacturing. I have built a data base for the drill points that have been gashed and when you use the auto depth in a drilling cycle your depth will not be correct using the hole feature.