flex 3c and pro concept

[handyman]

hi all



my company is buying pro/e flex 3c pakage, ptc site is not good to tell
its product details i need pro/concept with pro/e , seller provide us a
document which show that sufac and styling is included. on ptc site
suface and styling is under pro/E link.



can any body tell me flex 3c
contains pro concept or we should buy it again.



regards,



Edited by: handyman

 

[paulgress]

This is the part of output from my "Technical Support Info". I don't see anything that says "Pro/Concept"


FILE: support.inf.6

TIME: 13-Aug-05 18:16:21



==================================================

License Information

==================================================



Service Contract Number: XXXXXXXX

Release: Wildfire 2.0

Pro/ENGINEER Date Code: M140

License Name: PROE_Flex3C

License Version: 25.0

License Type: Commercial version, Floating License

Server Name: Rad-0



License file search path: 7788@Rad-0



==================================================

Configured Option Modules

==================================================



The following Pro/ENGINEER options are installed:

(Note: license extensions are marked with a '*')



Behavioral_Modeler
Pro/COMPOSITE
Pro/NOTEBOOK

Collaboration
Pro/DATA_for_PDGS
Pro/PHOTORENDER

Design_Animation
Pro/DETAIL
Pro/PIPING

Import_Data_Doctor
Pro/ECAD
Pro/PLOT

Interactive_Surface_Design Pro/FEATURE
Pro/PROCESS_ASM

Mechanism_Design Pro/HARNESS-MFG Pro/REPORT

Mechanism_Dynamics
Pro/INTERFACE
Pro/SCAN_TOOLS

ModelCHECK
Pro/INTF-CADDS5
Pro/SHEETMTL-DES

Pro/4DNavigator
Pro/INTF-for-CAT
Pro/SURFACE

Pro/ASSEMBLY
Pro/INTF_for_STEP
Pro/WELDING

Pro/CABLING
Pro/LEGACY
Pro/Web.Link

Pro/CDT

Pro/LIBRARYACCESS Pro/Web.Publish
Edited by: radelectronics

 

[miked]

pro concept is a separate module which is not included with Flex3c.

 

[markthemech]

Pro/Concept is a totally separate program from Pro/Engineer.



It requires a separate license completely.



If your reseller thinks that Pro/Concept falls under Pro/Engineer's
Surfacing and Styling tools (or they simply didn't know enough about
Pro/Concept to tell you it isn't), then they obviously do not know the
products which they are selling you. You should look for another
reseller if this is the case.



I used to work for a re-seller, and I regularly had to fight fires
started by the salespeople who would say pretty much anything in order
to close a deal.

 

[handyman]

thx guys



ressellers give me a doc of flex 3c it tells the only summery. i will talk with them for Pro/concept i badly need it,



can any body tell me nay other good 3d sketching software that can export file to pro/e



regards,

 

[ankarl]

if you are looking for good export possibilities to Pro/E I wouldnt choose Pro/Concept....
It has very limited export and the modelling tools aren't that impressive either.'


I tested it a while ago and the feature I liked bestwas the ability to sketch or paint on 3D-surfaces.


If youre buying flex3c then you have an excellent tool in ISDX.

If you want to shape your initial designs more freely without any parametric constraints I would recomend Rhino. Great modelling tools and a fair price too.
You can import/export to Pro/E (non-parametric of course)
www.rhino3d.com


(Check the Penguin also, a cool non-photorealistic renderer...)





BTW, theres a free try-before-you-buy version of pro/concept you can download from ptc website. It has full functionality except for the rendering as far as I remember.
Edited by: ankarl

 

[ncprog]

Page 4 of 4 list options for Foundation Advantage, Flex Advantage, and Flex 3C


http://www.ptc.com/products/datasheets/fap_ds.pdf.en


Pro/CONCEPT is not listed. I just started the video from PTC and it appears to be a separate application (Not inside Pro/Engineer). You have to have a Maintenance Contract with a login to view the video.


[url]http://www.ptc.com/appserver/it/icm/cda/template_lib/replay/ replay_v.jsp?im_dbkey=24899&icg_dbkey=362 [/url]


We have Flex 3C and have nothing in the installation directory concerning Pro/CONCEPT. I tried to contact our sales rep to confirm that it is a separate module, but he could not be reached at the moment. I'll post if I find out.

 

[handyman]

if you are looking for good export possibilities to Pro/E I wouldnt choose Pro/Concept....
It has very limited export and the modelling tools aren't that impressive either.'


I tested it a while ago and the feature I liked bestwas the ability to sketch or paint on 3D-surfaces.


If youre buying flex3c then you have an excellent tool in ISDX.

If
you want to shape your initial designs more freely without any
parametric constraints I would recomend Rhino. Great modelling tools
and a fair price too.
You can import/export to Pro/E (non-parametric of course)
www.rhino3d.com


(Check the Penguin also, a cool non-photorealistic renderer...)





BTW, theres a free try-before-you-buy version of pro/concept you can
download from ptc website. It has full functionality except for the
rendering as far as I remember.

thx for review can i use rhino files in Pre/E and do all parametric things



what you say about 3d Max cani use its files in pro/e? i already have max

 

[handyman]

Page 4 of 4 list options for Foundation Advantage, Flex Advantage, and Flex 3C


http://www.ptc.com/products/datasheets/fap_ds.pdf.en


Pro/CONCEPT is not listed. I just started the video from PTC and it
appears to be a separate application (Not inside Pro/Engineer). You
have to have a Maintenance Contract with a login to view the video.


[url]http://www.ptc.com/appserver/it/icm/cda/template_lib/replay/ replay_v.jsp?im_dbkey=24899&icg_dbkey=362 [/url]


We have Flex 3C and have nothing in the installation directory
concerning Pro/CONCEPT. I tried to contact our sales rep to confirm
that it is a separate module, but he could not be reached at the
moment. I'll post if I find out.

i read it flex 3c has all 3 bsic pakages listed on write side of this pdf

 

[ankarl]

I think files from Rhino and Max would work similar in Pro/E.
You need to export in a format that PRo/E can read, STEP for example, and therefore the geometry is non-parametric. You can add features and remove material, but not modify it the way you wouldwith pro/e geometry.

 

[Moroso]

If you take files from 3D Studio Max or Rhino, make sure the surfaces are Nurb surfaces not polymesh.


I import Rhino surfaces into Pro/E all the time, Rhino surfaces are complete garbage.