Template View Scale

[mkzler]

I have created a template with my preferred default general and projection views. I have changed some of the view options so that each specific view displays the way that I want it to - for example, hidden line display. This works great.

I am having trouble with the scale option though. I would like my drawing views to be set to the default scale of the drawing, but this is not happening. When I create a new drawing using this template, my views are generated in the location and display that I want, but the scale of the views are set to a custom value. If the default scale of the drawing is 1.00, the drawing views might show up at a custom scale of 1.85. So when I modify the drawing scale, the views do not follow. I have not selected or changed the scale option in my template views. How do I make sure that the views are set to the default drawing scale?


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[GunnarHansen]

What version do use?? I have WF3 and there is no problem. See jpg below.


Regards Gunnar

 

[mkzler]

I am using WF3 as well. I see the same thing you do. When I have the Scale box checked as shown in your image, I can input a view scale of my choosing. However, this will set the views to that custom scale (0.50000 in your case), while the default drawing scale might be something different like 1.000. I want my views to follow the default drawing scale.

If I leave the scale box unchecked, I will see a grayed out value for the scale (0.50000). When I then use the template to make a new drawing, the default drawing scale ends up as one value (1.000 for example) and my views come in at their own custom scale (1.85 for example) that does not correlate with the default drawing scale, or the 0.5000 value in the gray box.

I still don't know why this is happening. I checked the template view options on some of ProE's default templates which will set the views to the default drawing scale, and I set up my template view scale options the same as the ProE template. I am calling out a custom .dtl file for my template which displays my drawing scale in fractional form. Could this be causing a problem somehow?


On another note, does anyone know why this code keeps appearing at the end of all my posts?

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[GunnarHansen]

Have you checked in your template drw the drawing option:


view_scale_denominator =0


(find here: #file;#properties;#drawing options)


But still, if the part is too big for the drawing format, the scale will be changed to 1:2 or 1:3 or 1:10 orwhatever fits acc to Pro-E.


Not sure if this helps you?

 

[mkzler]

I have this view_scale_denominator = 120. If I set it = 0, then my scale does not display in fractional format the way that I want.

It seems that ProE is setting the default scale to an appropriate value based on the size of the part - whether that is 1/4, 1/2, 1/1, etc....but the views show up at some larger custom scale and are too oversized for the drawing.

I'm guessing that this problem has something to do with my view_scale_denominator set at 120. To be honest, I'm not sure where I got this value from, but this seems to be one of the necessary options to display my scale in fraction form. Even if my view_scale_format is set to fractional, the scale will still display in decimal form if the view_scale_denominator = 0.

Any ideas?

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[GunnarHansen]

2009-11-08_074037_Active_Drawing.zip


Here is my drawing option file. (.dtl) Unzip and give it a try?


Or here is it in text if you want to copy-paste


drawing_text_height 3.500000
text_thickness 0.000000
text_width_factor 0.800000
broken_view_offset 20.000000
create_area_unfold_segmented YES
def_view_text_height 0.000000
def_view_text_thickness 0.000000
detail_circle_line_style SOLIDFONT
detail_circle_note_text DEFAULT
detail_view_circle ON
half_view_line SOLID
model_display_for_new_views NO_HIDDEN
projection_type FIRST_ANGLE
show_total_unfold_seam YES
tan_edge_display_for_new_views TAN_DIMMED
view_note STD_ISO
view_scale_denominator 10
view_scale_format RATIO_COLON
detail_view_boundary_type CIRCLE
detail_view_scale_factor 2.000000
crossec_arrow_length 5.000000
crossec_arrow_style HEAD_ONLINE
crossec_arrow_width 2.000000
crossec_text_place BEFORE_TAIL
crossec_type OLD_STYLE
cutting_line STD_ISO
cutting_line_adapt YES
cutting_line_segment 3.000000
def_xhatch_break_around_text NO
def_xhatch_break_margin_size 0.150000
draw_cosms_in_area_xsec NO
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show_quilts_in_total_xsecs NO
datum_point_shape CROSS
datum_point_size 0.312500
hidden_tangent_edges DEFAULT
hlr_for_datum_curves YES
hlr_for_pipe_solid_cl NO
hlr_for_threads YES
location_radius DEFAULT(2.)
mesh_surface_lines ON
pipe_insulation_solid_xsec NO
ref_des_display NO
show_sym_of_suppressed_weld NO
thread_standard STD_ISO_IMP
weld_light_xsec NO
weld_solid_xsec NO
allow_3d_dimensions YES
angdim_text_orientation PARALLEL_OUTSIDE
associative_dimensioning YES
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clip_dimensions YES
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dim_text_gap 1.000000
display_tol_by_1000 NO
draft_scale 1.000000
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dual_digits_diff -1
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dual_dimension_brackets YES
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dual_secondary_units INCH
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ord_dim_standard STD_ISO
parallel_dim_placement ABOVE
radial_dimension_display STD_ASME
shrinkage_value_display PERCENT_SHRINK
symmetric_tol_display_standard STD_ASME
text_orientation PARALLEL_DIAM_HORIZ
tol_display YES
tol_text_height_factor 0.700000
tol_text_width_factor 0.800000
use_major_units NO
witness_line_delta 1.500000
witness_line_offset 0.050000
default_font font
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draw_arrow_style FILLED
draw_arrow_width 1.500000
draw_attach_sym_height DEFAULT
draw_attach_sym_width DEFAULT
draw_dot_diameter DEFAULT
leader_elbow_length 5.000000
leader_extension_font SOLIDFONT
axis_interior_clipping NO
axis_line_offset 4.000000
circle_axis_offset 4.000000
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gtol_datum_placement_default ON_BOTTOM
gtol_dim_placement UNDER_VALUE
new_iso_set_datums NO
stacked_gtol_align YES
2d_region_columns_fit_text NO
all_holes_in_hole_table YES
dash_supp_dims_in_region YES
def_bom_balloons_attachment EDGE
def_bom_balloons_snap_lines NO
def_bom_balloons_stagger NO
def_bom_balloons_stagger_value 0.600000
def_bom_balloons_view_offset 0.800000
def_bom_balloons_edge_att_sym ARROWHEAD
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min_dist_between_bom_balloons 0.800000
model_digits_in_region NO
reference_bom_balloon_text "DEFAULT"
show_cbl_term_in_region NO
show_dim_sign_in_tables YES
sort_method_in_region DELIMITED
zero_quantity_cell_format EMPTY
draw_layer_overrides_model YES
ignore_model_layer_status YES
model_grid_balloon_display YES
model_grid_balloon_size 10.000000
model_grid_neg_prefix -
model_grid_num_dig_display 0
model_grid_offset DEFAULT
model_grid_text_orientation HORIZONTAL
model_grid_text_position CENTERED
pipe_pt_line_style DEFAULT
pipe_pt_shape CROSS
pipe_pt_size DEFAULT
show_pipe_theor_cl_pts BEND_CL
decimal_marker COMMA_FOR_METRIC_DUAL
default_pipe_bend_note NO
drawing_units MM
harn_tang_line_display NO
line_style_standard STD_ISO
max_balloon_radius 0.000000
min_balloon_radius 0.000000
node_radius DEFAULT
pos_loc_format %s%x%y, %r
sym_flip_rotated_text NO
weld_symbol_standard STD_ANSI
yes_no_parameter_display TRUE_FALSE

 

[kdem]

There is also a config.pro option default_draw_scale you can try. Do you have more than one model associated with the drawing? Ifthe part is not currently active and you change the scale, the drawing views created for that part do not change scale.

 

[mkzler]

Thank you Gunnar for all your help. I have the drawing working properly now, and I don't think it was related to the drawing options. When I had created the initial template view I placed the view by dragging a box rather than simply clicking the location. I should have realized that that was creating the problem. Once I created new template views by simply clicking the placement location, the drawing views followed the default drawing scale.< id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" =""><div id="ref"></div>

 

[mjcole_ptc]

Make sure the projected views are created as such and not a separate general view. Then they should maintain the correct scale the same as the plan view.

Michael

 

[dr_gallup]

What version do use?? I have WF3 and there is no problem. See jpg below.


Regards Gunnar

DO NOT check the scale box if you want the views to follow the default drawing scale.