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Hi Everyone,
I'm trying to model a carton. I have been supplied with the outside profile so am starting to model the top section which I see as the more complex bit.
So far I have modelled it using boundary blends but from recent posts I think I may get a better result using Variable Section Sweeps. Unfortunately I'm struggling with it and not getting very far. Can anyone guide me in the right direction please? Model is attached.2008-07-18_040530_carton-04.prt.zip
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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i think you have put the pictures on the planes
if so then you have to share the images as well for understanding what u r talking about
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Davisdony, What do you mean by 'i think you have put the pictures on the planes'?
The sketched curves in the model was the proifles I am using to create the boundary blend. See link to model on 1st post!! I did attach it so people could see what I'm talking about.
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hi michael
luckly I`ve been equiped letely with WF4 CDs so I could open your file
I would do this with combination of VSS + BB
*main body - VVS
*neck - BB
funny - this case lok very familiar to me - it remind the one tutorial Ragde from PDF forum done
http://www.productdesignforums.com/index.php?showtopic=8792
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Jacek,
Thanks, so I'm on the right road then??
I couldn't access the images on your link so I couldn't see how similar it is. The shape of the carton was given to me by a client.
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Hi Micheal, I dont think your model is too bad, like you say you are limited to the constraints in the sketches that you have been given. The curvature analysis isnt too bad but I guess the reflection could look better. I guess its a matter of controlling what happens in between your sketches, adding a few more controlling datum curves etc.
I am no master at surfacing but I am also trying to learn little by little every day, if I get chance i`ll see if I can improve on yours... doubt it though 
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Thanks Skint, the client seemed happy enough with the basic shape though as you say the reflection could look better, I'm just not too sure how to improve it.
Now to add the handle, no doubt I'll be back asking more questions!!
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michael3130 wrote:
Jacek,
Thanks, so I'm on the right road then??
I couldn't access the images on your link so I couldn't see how similar it is.
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Ha! - must first register to PDF to use its content(pics). But it is worth to do this!
this is my way of tdoing this. It is simplified al ittle while I replaced splines by conic arcs, which in such shape are enough, two - they are less demanded to control
2008-07-21_020142_small_bottle.prt.rar
Anyway, if I were You I would do this within at least few steps instead of one surf by Boundary Blend. Among of many others factors(more flexibility for changes, simple curves-profiles, etc) this approach in long term produces good habbit which would pay back in future
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A decent attempt Jacek and good to see how you created your surfaces, I see you took a similar approach to Radge from pdf :) It doesnt use the exact base curves which michael was constrained to though does it.
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I can't open rar files in work, only zip files, but will do it when I get home so I can see what you've done Jacek.
I suppose if a model is constrained in the way this one is, there's only so much can be done to get a good surface. Am I right?
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